Acts of Volition

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alison -

jacob who?

Steven Garrity -

<i>alison</i>: I'm not sure if that was sarcastic or not. If not, here's Jakob Nielsen's bio. If so, touché.

eric -

MS could fix the problem immediately by telling people to use Mozilla instead. 8)

alison -

oh ok, not the jacob nielsen i slept with in 1978. (joke)

Matt Round -

IE is actually doing 'the right thing' for once, a pixel is a pixel after all. It's just that so many developers have opted for pixels (ironically, some may have done so after reading Zeldman's repeated comments about pixels being the only way) that the text sizing options have become useless.

Hopefully more developers will start using ems, which do work well for many sites. Unfortunately when browsers crudely override pixel sizes just for text it breaks highly graphical sites where the developer has sensibly specified pixels to ensure text fits in amongst images without overflowing.

It's vital for developers to retain this control over the size of text relative to images. MS should either zoom the entire layout (which shouldn't be difficult to implement, as Win IE already has CSS zoom, which is fairly similar in effect) or ignore these 'demands' and try to educate developers in how to use units other than pixels.

Mark Paschal -

A pixel is a pixel, unless it's a standards-compliant pixel, in which case it only might be a pixel.

Hopefully more developers will start using ems, and the idea that a web site should work entirely as the author intended because it's a document, not software, will die a horrible painful death. But the ems are the important thing.

Serdar Kilic -

Ahh, is there anything wrong about using "em" ?

Mark Paschal -

Not that I know of. I use ems and percents, except for pure visual things like borders, which usually end up px. All my margins and padding are in ems and exes.